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« on: March 04, 2008, 07:49:44 PM »

I am so sad.  I am now 16 days out.  I was here about 5 1/2 months ago and thought I was through with him.  But...  you know the drill.  4 months back in and here I am again (different name).  Things had improved so much.  He had been working and hadn't been raging at me too much, but the neediness, jealousy, constant unhappiness with how I was communicating (how can anyone communicate when they're terrified of what will happen if they do?), etc., etc., etc.  There was ALWAYS something wrong.  Life was one big therapy session and forced 'love'.  Things were improving, but I knew, I knew... Even when things seem to be improving, you can just sense it is 'right there' waiting to come out, building... 
Then, for the first time, he RAGED at my son.  It was like he was transferring his rage to my son instead of me.  Both my son and I thought it could escalate into a physical confrontation-it was so vein popping.  It was the last straw.  How could that ever be repaired?  He had 'cared' what my son thought of him before so kept it pretty much in control around him.  When I saw that happening, I thought "This will never end; you will never know when he will explode; years from now, I would still be scared; my elderly  parents in the future?  grandchildren? who knows who would get the brunt of it?".
As soon as we broke up I joined a Divorce Recovery class.  They admit people in the class other than divorcing or divorced since the book used is Rebuilding When Your Relationship Ends
Anyway, I really think this class is helping me and I thought others might be interested in joining one.  Churches hold different kinds, religious and secular.  The first chapter is Denial.  Denying it is really over by continuing to invest emotionally in a dead relationship.  Ring a bell anyone? 
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 08:05:02 PM »

I am so sad.  I am now 16 days out.  I was here about 5 1/2 months ago and thought I was through with him.  But...  you know the drill.  4 months back in and here I am again (different name).  Things had improved so much.  He had been working and hadn't been raging at me too much, but the neediness, jealousy, constant unhappiness with how I was communicating (how can anyone communicate when they're terrified of what will happen if they do?), etc., etc., etc.  There was ALWAYS something wrong.  Life was one big therapy session and forced 'love'.  Things were improving, but I knew, I knew... Even when things seem to be improving, you can just sense it is 'right there' waiting to come out, building... 
Then, for the first time, he RAGED at my son.  It was like he was transferring his rage to my son instead of me.  Both my son and I thought it could escalate into a physical confrontation-it was so vein popping.  It was the last straw.  How could that ever be repaired?  He had 'cared' what my son thought of him before so kept it pretty much in control around him.  When I saw that happening, I thought "This will never end; you will never know when he will explode; years from now, I would still be scared; my elderly  parents in the future?  grandchildren? who knows who would get the brunt of it?".
As soon as we broke up I joined a Divorce Recovery class.  They admit people in the class other than divorcing or divorced since the book used is Rebuilding When Your Relationship Ends
Anyway, I really think this class is helping me and I thought others might be interested in joining one.  Churches hold different kinds, religious and secular.  The first chapter is Denial.  Denying it is really over by continuing to invest emotionally in a dead relationship.  Ring a bell anyone? 

Don't be sad.  You are on you way to something so much better.  I, for one, am happy for you.

I inhabit the land of denial--its very close to the land of 'fear.'  And I KNOW the path out is there, I just can't see it.  That's what makes me sad...(It's all about faith, right?)
If you don't mind me going slightly off subject--your comment about communicating rang a VERY LOUD bell for me.  I might continue this post elsewhere, if anyone is interested.  I heard that comment SO much for the first 5 years of my marriage.  I read books, I tried self help excercises--that's what got me into counseling...thinking something was wrong with me.  He made me terrified to talk to him about anything possibly controversial.  We couldn't even talk about a movie without him making a comment about my thoughts being stupid, or my being a darn fool.  Oh my gosh...those memories are still painful.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 08:23:41 PM »

Alegna, thanks so much for responding.  It's funny.  The same thing happened to me.  He kept telling me 'I' was the one with the issues (oh, I had them, but not 'exactly' the ones he thought I had!).  So we started counseling together and BOOM!  the counselor says BPD for him and the rest is history.  My ex DID try.  He really did.  But I think it's true that even if you do work SO hard, for most it will be a long, long battle, maybe (probably) forever. 
He is SO sensitive that he senses when I'm not 'honest' with him.  And gets upset.  But how can you be honest with someone that rages, twists, and blames?  Even when you try to be as kind as possible, if he feels criticized in any way, you never know what will happen.  -Quietly ponder? -Slowly get to a boil? -Or just explode? 
He actually sent ME an article on communicating without 'punishing'.  I couldn't believe it.  Someone wrote on another thread that their SO complained about not being able to be themselves when confronted with their behavior.  Mine also said that.  They want to be able to say any hurtful or ridiculous thing and complain about you not communicating. But they really don't want communication.  They only want to hear what they want to hear, you agreeing with them. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 04:49:20 AM »

There is no shame in trying again.
You loved this person and wanted it to work. The people who don't go back and forth are few and far between.

But when it is over it is over.
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